Talk:Battle of the Little Bighorn
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Nationalities
[edit]Starting on 21:34, 22 August 2020 and ending on 22:04, 22 August 2020, editor 77.101.187.179 made a series of edits that added the current "Nationality" breakdown under "Belligerents" in the top right table. Is any of this really necessary for the article? SchuttenbachPercival (talk) 17:54, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
- It seems some of those fighting on the side of the United States were actually European immigrants and not actually Americans, so why is it out of place? oncamera 23:17, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
- Given that the United States is a nation of immigrants, should we put "nationality" breakdowns under the "Belligerents" table of every battle the United States has ever been involved in? SchuttenbachPercival (talk) 13:02, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Leaders - Black Elk?
[edit]Black Elk was a notable participant in (though not really notable for his participation in) the day's events, but he was a 12-year-old boy, and not a leader. I think it's worth mentioning his presence and his first-hand account, but calling him a leader seems a real stretch. Dcs002 (talk) 01:10, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
Crappy Scrappy article that needs a complete overhaul
[edit]It's like reading a repetitive stream of conciousness where what has already been said is partially repeated again in another section only with a slightly different tone or focus. The article is comprehensive but it's a rambling mess where sections - particularly about what happened in the battle - contradict each other (I am presuming the editors of these paragraphs have a particular viewpoint they want to make) in stead of being written as rebuttals to previous statements. Or a sub section explains something but then there is a sub sub section to contradict the previous section - like the firearms sections. The repetition needs to be removed, things only have to be said once, and the current flip flop between contradictions needed to be change din favour of making it clear that are degrees of latitude in what might or might not happened ie the archaeological research is unimpeachable but how the interpretation can be, it should be written in the order of myth/story, might have, might not, then actual physical evidence that refutes what has been said. That's a completely back to front way doing things. A good editor who is knowledgeable of this topic needs to take the substance of this article and edit it. All the parts of there, they're just not working together at the moment. 146.200.202.126 (talk) 12:48, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Photo is not Mitch Bouyer
[edit]The photograph misidentified for nearly 100 years as Mitch Bouyer is actually A-ca-po-re, a Ute medicine man, musician, and jester. It was taken by Charles A. Nast c.1895-1899 at his Denver studio in a series of Ute and Jicarilla Apache portraits which reside in the Western History Department of the Denver Public Library. The original glass photonegative is housed in the Denver Public Library Special Collections - call number X-31214 - image file ZZR710031214. The misidentification of the photo appears to have first appeared in E. A. Brininstool's 1925 book Troopers with Custer; the provenance is given as Mitch Bouyer's daughter. 1902 postcard in the collection of the British Museum. 2005 account of discovering the deception by Mike Cowdrey. Of course, this calls into question the identification of the skull fragment found in the Deep Ravine area. On the upside, there's still a 1 in 210 chance that Bouyer's marker is in the right place. Frank Prchal (talk) 23:43, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
July1876
[edit]July 1876 100 anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence
Defeat of the 7th US Cavalry Regiment Lt George A Custer and 5 out of 8 companies involved...
A very good website is Friends of the Little Bighorn Battlefield
for example question what happened to Custer Gun carrying that day?
https://lbha.proboards.com/thread/5754/custers-pistol-battle-june-1876 Apparently Custer was killed by Sitting Bull's nephew White Bull in personel combat -although White Bull did not know whom he was fighting that day (See American Heritage "The man who killed Custer" By Stanley Vestal) https://www.americanheritage.com/man-who-killed-custer
He reported later that he had killed Custer with his own gun although he lost it after being wounded
There is a claim Custer guns were captured by other Indians
https://www.astonisher.com/archives/museum/spotted_wolf_little_big_horn.html A common report is that Custer had a pair of white handled Bulldog white handled Pistols
There is a article in question that he had a webley RIC Pistol https://www.coltforum.com/threads/custers-guns.102332/ AN 1874 photograph of Custer shows Custer near an webley RIC Pistol with a dark handle https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:George_Armstrong_Custer_and_wife_Fort_Lincoln_Dakota_Territory.jpg https://lbha.proboards.com/thread/5799/custer-sidearm There is a question if Custer was carrying a Webley or not https://www.quora.com/Was-Custer-carrying-the-Webley-Bulldog-revolver-at-the-Little-Bighorn-and-were-any-of-those-cartridges-slugs-found Walter Grangaard claimed to have Custer guns.... https://indianz.com/News/2023/01/10/auction-under-fire-for-sale-of-items-from-battle-of-little-bighorn/ https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=80104.0 https://www.coltforum.com/threads/wendell-grangaard-and-togia-language-videos.406677/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6010:BB00:288B:A849:9F2B:3F10:3B78 (talk) 02:18, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
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