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Suggestions for article improvement

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Here are a set of ideas to improve the article from an Intertwine "Evaluating an Article" session.

Set of Ideas:

  • In the history section, towards the end of the fourth paragraph, citations on hamburgers in Hamburg, Germany should be included.
  • The second sentence in the Ingredients section seems like a personal opinion.
  • Religious section is not relevant to the central themes of a cheeseburger
  • Citation for the great plains and cattle ranching in the History section in the first sentence.
  • Reference #5 does not take you to Pasadena Sun. It doesn't have any info on it about cheeseburgers.
  • Maybe have a "Hamburger Records" or "Popular culture" section for inclassifiable information
  • Article 26 seems unreliable. New York Post is heavily slanted right.
  • Reference #11 is a blog post, which should not be included as reference in Wikipedia.
  • Ideas by Nmermoud, Msaimeevo, Christopher Sanders (user: sande2cj), PinkPanther4597, Sloth36, Nathan Blottie - Danku, ElizabethOgunsuyi — Preceding unsigned comment added by PinkPanther4597 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I believe these are all great improvements. My peers and I came up with the following review during an Intertwine session. A good lead section. It includes what goes on a cheeseburger and the types of cheeses that normally go on the cheeseburger. Very detailed and unbiased. Maybe there could be more talk about cows, and the ways of getting the meat. Including more religious beliefs would be great as well. For example, in India people do not eat beef. Also, some of the sources do not appear to be reliable. To better improve this article, the sources should be re-evaluated and the article expanded upon. The specific source would be the one referring to the bible. maljohns (talk) 19:28, 4 February 2018 (UTC) Tamaracyoung (talk) 19:31, 4 February 2018 (UTC) (19:35, 4 February 2018 (UTC))[reply]

Shannonkhod (talk) 19:32, 4 February 2018 (UTC)Shannon[reply]

Impossible Burger

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Our Intertwine team added an internal link to the Impossible Foods page. Impossible Foods has developed an all-plant patty that mimics beef. We added this to the ingredients section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sydney Stephens (talk • contribs) 20:20, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Interwine evaulating an article session) opinion on the article

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Structure of the article:
- the lead section of the article is pretty clear and straightforward, but it omits certain sections (like those for "Hamburgers") such as cheeseburgers around the world, unusual cheeseburgers, etc.
-"Variations" section to provide clearer information about different ingredients that can be used, etc.
- I would of like for the lead to have a sentence or even a few words on where the cheese burger orginated.

Balanced/neutral coverage:
- the balance of the article is neutral/unbiased, but at least in the "Religious" section of the article, they only briefly talk about Judaism/Kosher food laws without mentioning other religions (ex. Islam/Halal food laws).
-I agree. This article was not balanced when it came to giving information on other religions. It did not touch on any other religion.

Reliable sources:
- the links generally work, but there is one citaton needed for tofu. Isha9 (talk) 19:20, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2024

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Add to Category:Californian cuisine because it originated in California. 2600:6C50:7E00:316:20E1:1E8F:F38F:FCD5 (talk) 09:10, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Left guide (talk) 10:05, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Upcoming Edits for Article Improvement

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Hello Wikipedians!

Here are some upcoming edits I am planning to make to improve the Cheeseburger article. If anybody has any suggestions or concerns, please reach out and let me know!

- Section about pop-culture, including references to cheeseburgers seen in film, marketing, and music.

- Section about global influence and international variations — such as the adaptation of the cheeseburger in other countries (France, Mexico, etc.). I will discuss how groups adapt this dish to fit local customs, dietary restrictions, and religions.

- Outlining the cheeseburger's association with fast food and consumerism.

- Expanded section about the history of the cheeseburger; the various origin stories and myths.

- More multimedia and references.

- Section about the health effects of cheeseburgers. Zoefingretmcgill (talk) 16:16, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 24 March 2025 — International + Gourmet Adaptations

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ADD NEW SECTION: International + Gourmet Adaptations:

International Adaptations

Despite its American origins, the cheeseburger has reached global tastebuds and has been adapted to fit a variety of countries’ specific tastes. Many attribute the international spread of the cheeseburger to the American fast-food franchise McDonald’s, which created a market for local adaptations to the American classic. In India for example, a predominantly Hindu country, beef had to be eliminated from the cheeseburger to adhere to religious customs which revere the cow as a sacred animal. This led to the creation of the “Maharaja Mac,” which is a substitute originally made with lamb meat, but also offered with chicken. In Japan, seasonal menu items reflect local cultures, such as the “Tsukimi Burger” offered during the autumn moon, which is a cheeseburger topped with bacon, a poached egg (to represent the moon), and a mayonnaise and ketchup sauce. For French customers, the McBaguette Burger satisfies local tastes with local cheese, lettuce, and a mustard sauce. The Cheddar McMelt is a common menu item in Brazil, which is cooked in onions and soy sauce and topped with sharp cheddar cheese.


Gourmet Adaptations

Fast-food menu variety is not the only form of international cheeseburger adaptation. The cheeseburger may commonly be associated with low-cost junk food; however, gourmet burgers have been becoming popular as world renowned chefs recreate the classic to fit their particular styles and menus. After the COVID-19 pandemic, Copenhagen’s three-Michelin starred NOMA reopened as a cheeseburger restaurant. The restaurant, which was originally renowned for its $500 tasting menu, created a menu that includes solely cheeseburgers made with patties consisting of beef ferment, beef garum, and smoked beef fat, red onions, and cheddar. Though the change does not represent an adaptation based primarily on Danish culture, it shows the international status that the cheeseburger has reached to hit the highest levels of gourmet cuisine. The NOMA cheeseburger was met with relatively positive reactions, with some patrons expressing that it was the best cheeseburger they had ever eaten despite the higher cost, with cheeseburgers ranging between $25-30. Other Michelin restaurants that offer cheeseburgers on the menu include Chug’s Diner in Miami, J.G. Melon in New York, Michele’s in Washington DC, Miller & Lux in San Francisco, and Mott St in Chicago. At Miller & Lux, a steakhouse owned by celebrity chef Tyler Florence, the cube-shaped burger is served with triple cream, bacon jam, and onion rings. Mott St offers a Korean adaptation to the classic cheeseburger, using sweet potato, hoisin, miso butter onions, and pickled jalapeno.

REFERENCES:

' Khan, Mahmood. (Jan 2012) "I'm Lovin' It-Around the World: A Case Study of McDonald's "Glocalization"." Journal of Hospitality and Tourism Cases, https://www.chrie.org/assets/docs/JHTC-case-notes/JHTC-vol-2/JHTC_2-3_Kha n_ Case.pdf. 2 ibid 3 White, Martha. (Feb 24, 2012) "McDonald's goes Gallic with McBaguette Burger" NBC News, https://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/mcdonalds-goes-gallic-mcbaguette -burger-flna192677

n_Case.pdf. §Leer, Jonatan, and Camilla Hoff-Jorgensen. (Sep 8, 2022) "Consumers' Attitudes to Gourmet Burgers: The Case of the Noma Cheeseburger." British Food Journal https://doi.org/10.1108/bfj-04-2022-0323. 6 "Burgers 101-Michelin Guide Chefs on the Perfect Bite." MICHELIN Guide. (Feb 09, 2024) https://guide.michelin.com/ca/en/article/features/michelin-guide-to-the-per rger. Christian131119 (talk) 16:45, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Seems like an advertisement for McDonalds, change it to something less advertising. When done reopen your request. Valorrr (talk) 18:06, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 24 March 2025

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Religious and Dietary Restrictions:

Religious Restrictions:

According to Jewish dietary law, Jews are forbidden to mix meat and milk products in food preparation. This means that cheeseburgers, which mix a patty and melted cheese, should not be eaten to respect the Kosher laws. However, different Jewish laws have interpreted the Torah passages mentioning the interdiction of mixing meat in milk. Some have interpreted these passages as not cooking meat with the animal's mother's milk, while another tradition argues that the meat of an animal should not be cooked in its parents' fat. However, while there is contention regarding the meaning of the Torah passages, the tradition of not cooking animal meat in milk has become widely accepted, meaning that Jews are forbidden to eat anything mixing meat and cheese such as the cheeseburger. As for Muslim dietary law, there is no contraindication that meat and milk should not be cooked together. However, there are separate restrictions regarding the preparation of the meat and cheese. For the cheeseburger patty, the beef needs to be prepared in accordance with Halal preparation. Halal law requires praying to Allah before killing the animal and quickly slaughtering it without any pain. This also involves draining all the blood from the animal and not using its by-products (milk, cheese, eggs). While it is not possible to use the cheese coming from a slaughtered animal, it is possible to produce cheese from one that is alive, with the only restriction of not containing animal-derived rennet, an enzyme derived from animal stomach. A lot of fast-food restaurants have already adopted halal beef patties to welcome a bigger pool of customers such as Quick in France.

Other Restrictions:

Other dietary restrictions can be due to allergies or can be an individual deliberate choice. Among these restrictions, you can find vegans and vegetarians. Vegetarianism is a diet that excludes the consumption of meat, whether that be red meat or seafood. As such, cheeseburgers, a meal whose main ingredients are a beef patty and meat is going against this diet. In order for vegans to still enjoy this dish, multiple companies have created meat patties full of nutrients but made of plants. Such companies are Impossible Foods Inc or Made Good. For example, Impossible Foods Inc launched in 2016 its Impossible Burger in the restaurant Momofuku in New York City. This burger is a cheeseburger like any order, except that it has a plant-based patty instead of a beef one. Veganism follows this line of thought but takes it further since it is a diet that excludes any produced by or derived from animals. As per this definition, cheeseburgers are meals that vegans cannot eat. However, with the creation of plant-based patties and the development of vegan cheese brands such as Violife or Daiya, it has become easy to reconstruct a cheeseburger without the original ingredient of this meal. While it remains difficult to change the global consumption of meat, ready-to-use meat alternatives that resemble meat in taste, texture, and appearance are becoming increasingly popular.

References: M. Sasson, Jack (December 2003). Should Cheeseburgers Be Kosher?. https://irbe.library.vanderbilt.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/9d8f4618-b161-4fa8-a73e-0315e773332c/content CTS Food Inc (January 2020). Halal vs Kosher. https://www.iliosfoods.ca/post/halal-vs-kosher Febe Armanios, Bogaç A. Ergene (2018). Halal Food: A History. https://www.google.ca/books/edition/Halal_Food/qhBQDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=is+cheeseburger+halal%C2%A0&pg=PA238&printsec=frontcover Impossible Food Inc. 2024. Our Mission. https://impossiblefoods.com/mission Cooking With Jade. (September 2018). Exploring Delicious Vegan Cheeseburger Option. https://cookingwithjade.com/exploring-delicious-vegan-cheeseburger-options/#:~:text=Top%20Vegan%20Cheese%20Brands%20for%20Burgers&text=First%20up%2C%20we%27ve%20got,Then%2C%20there%27s%20Daiya. Mertens, E., Deriemaeker, P., & Van Beneden, K. (2024). Analysis of the Nutritional Composition of Ready-to-Use Meat Alternatives in Belgium. Nutrients, 16(11), 1648. https://doi.org/10.3390/nu16111648 Mae.bc (talk) 16:52, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: In my opinion, it feels like this is informing of religion and a lot more which may cause controversy, if you can change it I may consider adding it, another reviewer may change my decision if wanted. Valorrr (talk) 18:09, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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